Austin’s The Octopus Project just released their 3rd album, Hello, Avalanche, this fall and are in the
process of wrapping up their
summer tour. Ever since their
fans spoke up in 2006 and got the band a spot at
the Coachella Fest for that year, the number of
converts has only continued to
grow well outside of Texas. The band recently took time
out to kndly answer a few
questions for MOC.
What were the events that lead
to the Octopus Project’s
formation?
We were all in bands together
in high school/college, and
after being the back-up band
in a friend’s band, we decided
that we wanted to break out
and do something on our own.
That was around 1998-99. The Octopus Project formed out of the combination
of ideas from a couple of
other bands, Harry Bugus All Stars (me and Toto) and Invisible Robot Fish (collective of people). The
former was a recording project
where Toto and I just made up goofy
songs, and covered other
songs. It was mostly an
excuse to mess around and
record as much stuff as
possible – seeing how far we
could take things. The songs
weren’t super-awesome, but it
was a ton of fun. The latter
was an improvisational band
where we would go to a club in
Houston once a week on open mic
night, and just let loose for 20 minutes. There were no
rules, and we never practiced
or wrote any songs. It sounds
like it could be boring, but
we tried to make it as fun as
possible. None of us were
great musicians by any means,
so we kinda rested more on our
creativity/noise making
abilities rather than actual
skill.
What was the approach to
recording your 3rd album ([b]Hello Avalanche )?
In the past, we’ve always
recorded in Austin at home or
at a friend’s studio, and it
has always taken forever for
us to get things finished.
For Hello Avalanche , we decided that we wanted to
get away from Austin, and seclude ourselves in the
mountains outside of Seattle – pretty much as far away
from home as we could be. The
idea was that we’d record and
mix the record in a month, and
be done. We finished the
recording in the studio, but
felt like the mixing could use
some more time, so we spent a
month and a half working on it
at home, then took it into a
studio to do some final
touches for a couple of days.
Why the decision to work with
an outside producer for the
album?
We’ve been recording ourselves
forever, and know how to get
most of the sounds we wanted
with the limited equipment we
have, but it’s never sounded
exactly like what we want.
For this record, we wanted
things to sound a little more
polished, but still have some
dirty, nasty sounding stuff.
We worked with Ryan Hadlock up at Bear Creek outside of Seattle. He has recorded some
amazing sounding records (Blonde Redhead, Black Heart
Procession), and we felt like it was a
good fit. Since we knew how
to get the crazy, lo-fi stuff,
we left the more shiny
sounding stuff to him.
Is it difficult to replicate
the Octopus Project’s sound
live with the variety of
instruments used while
recording?
Sometimes it’s difficult,
sometimes not. The songs on
the first couple of records
were recorded mostly before we
started playing them live, so
figuring out how to actually
play them together was a
trick. We have some backing
tracks on an iPod for things that are just
impossible to recreate live
(cut-up beats, extra keyboard
parts). But, we’re trying to
veer away from that avenue.
The songs feel a lot fuller
when we’re not relying on the iPod. The newer songs are about
half and half. Now, we try
and trigger samples off of a
sampler, or use sequences that
we’re actually controlling
rather than just hitting “play.”
As far as instruments, there
have been a few difficult
things. For example, we have
a song called, “I Saw the Bright Shinies” that has multi-tracked Theremins on the recording. Live, we
had to change it up a bit. Yvonne plays one Theremin part, but the other two parts
are played on guitar and
keyboard. But, other songs
like [/i]“Truck”[/i] are pretty much exactly
the same live as they are on
the record.
Even though all of your
members seem to be fully
capable of playing any
instrument put in front of
them, is there anything that
is specifically reserved for
only one member, live or on
recordings?
The only instrument that only
one of us can play is the Theremin. We let Yvonne have full reign of that one.
She’s a fantastic player, and
it really wouldn’t do the
instrument justice to have any
of the rest of us goof around
on it. It’s her domain.
Everything else is up for
grabs though.
What is the main mode of
transport for the Octopus
Project on the road?
We have a big, white Chevy van. No trailer or extra
people yet. It’s tight with 4 people in there, but we each
get our own seat, so it all
works out ok.
How do you guys do to pass the
time?
We listen to an awful lot of
music, read, work on music,
look out the window, think,
sleep… Even though we might
drive for 10 hours, I never feel like I
get really bored. There’s
always something to do.
What are some of your favorite
venues and cities to visit?
Besides Austin, we always have pretty
stellar times in Chicago[b], [b]San Francisco, New York, Knoxville (it’s a great place,
really!), etc… The Pilot Light in Knoxville is a tiny, but lovely place
to play. We also really like Bimbo’s in SF, the Metro in Chicago, Irving Plaza in New York. There are way too many
places to name. We’ve been
lucky to play in some great
towns at some amazing clubs.
Are there any bands that you
have particularly enjoyed
playing with?
We just toured with our
friends from Austin called Diagonals, and it was great! We’ve
also had the chance to tour
with some super-cool folks, Trail of Dead, Enon, Stereo Total, Starlight Mints, and Aesop Rock. We’ve become good friends
with them since touring
together, so that’s really
nice.
Are there any dream tour
lineups that you would love to
be apart of?
If time and money were no
option….
1. The Beatles (of course, but
c’mon!)
2. Led Zeppelin (see #1)
3. Deerhoof
4. Air
5. Alice Coltrane
6. The Tammys
7. The Zombies
8. Steve Reich
9. Fela Kuti
10. Francoise Hardy
11. Fugazi
12. Liars
13. MIA
14. Neutral Milk Hotel
15. Sonic Youth
How have your experiences been
playing the big festivals like
Coachella and Lollapalooza? Is
there time to check out other
bands? Have you noticed any of
the other bands in your
audience?
Both of those festivals were
mind-blowingly amazing. It’s
really hard to explain, but
it’s kinda like Christmas morning for three days
straight. I mean, it’s always
been my dream to get to play
next to the most amazing bands
in the world. I feel
incredibly lucky to have been
able to fulfill that dream.
We had an outstanding time
playing the festivals, but it
was also completely awesome to
get to check out the other
bands, and hang around behind
the scenes. It makes you
realize that everyone is way
more normal than you would
have thought. It doesn’t seem
out of place at all to be
eating lunch next to Perry Farrell or Karen O.
I haven’t noticed anyone in
the audience from other bands,
but who knows…
It looks as though your tour
is wrapping up early fall
after an appearance at ACL,
what
are the Octopus Project’s
plans for after that?
After ACL, we’re going to be heading
out east for a couple of weeks
of touring. Nothing super
long. But, when we get back
we’re going to hunker down and
start focusing on making a new
record. Exciting!!
Released on Dischord in the early 80's, this
remains one of the most
influential examples of pure
DC punk and X'd up hardcore
during a time when the scene
was still fighting for it's
footing and carving it's
niche. The record remains a
staple "go to" reference for
anyone getting into this shit,
and if it isn't in your
collection, it should be.
New Jersey-born and now Bay
Area-based installation artist
and painter Chris Duncan has a
new show opening early next
month in NYC named after the
infamous recording.
"THE FAITH VOID SPLIT" will be on exhibit at the Jeff Bailey Gallery in New York, with an opening
reception on September 4, 2008
from 6-8pm. 511 W. 25th St.
#207 - NY, NY 10001
So in reading about Chris and
the inspiration for his
upcoming opening I started
thinking about a few other
splits that I dug over the
years.... (You all should
probably chime in here and
list your own as well...) here
are a few of mine:
The Jihad / Ottawa Split
Cited by many of my friends to
be the "best hardcore record
of the 90's", (and it's
certainly among them), the
fourth release on legendary Council Records (home of Current, Indian
Summer, etc) in 1994
completely bends minds.
Twenty-two tracks of
relentless brutally fast
hardcore, the longest track
clocking it at a minute
forty... hard as hell to find
on vinyl these days, but easy
enough to dig it up somewhere
I would imagine...
Released in the early 90's,
this double CD remains an
easy-access point for anyone
remotely interested in getting
into punk / crust, While
there are dozens of bands that
personify the genre more,
these two Bay Area bands
certainly hold their own...
and I mention this release
simply for the Filth's track
"The List" which remains a
killer to this day.
idunnolols Said: [quote=hathos][quote=idunno lols]velocity girl / chisel split 7"
im just callin that to fuck up erics game
NICE, BUT I WOULDA GONE WITH:
SubPop SP171, limited to 3000 copies on green vinyl, came with the Octob...
Seminal early/mid 90's bay
area emo/screamo band Portraits of Past, best known for their
inspiring and dirge-like
crushing blend of melodic
hardcore played two reunion
shows earlier this month in
and around Berkeley, with two
additional shows in NYC coming
up on the 29th and 30th of
this month.
If you've never heard them
before, their rare self-titled
LP on Ebullition is now
re-released so there's no
excuse - and with a new song
having been played at both CA
shows and rumors of new
material to follow, fans and
followers of this resurrected
band might have more to look
forward to.
Below is a clip of their
Gilman Street performance on
August 2nd of this month.
Catch them in NYC:
Friday August 29th - Brooklyn @ Death by Audio
9pm, 49 S. 2nd.
Saturday August 30th - Manhattan @ Cake Shop 8pm,
152 Ludlow st (with
Makeoutclub friends OFF
MINOR!)
If you ever had the
opportunity to see "The Last Dragon" as a kid or if you were
exposed to this amazing film
recently (it can be filed in
"LEGENDARY" alongside such
flicks as Big Trouble in
Little China) then you are
familiar with the incredible
villain that was Sho'Nuff, the
Shogun of Harlem!
I regret to report that actor Julius Carry III who portrayed the infamous
shogun passed away today due
to complications with
pancreatic cancer. Our hearts
go out to Carry's close
friends and family. Rest in
peace.
Long before every musician
felt entitled to be a film
actor too, it was a good way
to make some extra scratch.
Punk legend Richard Hell
(Television, Dim Stars,
Richard Hell & the Voidoids,
Neon Boys, Heartbreakers)
figured that out and started
popping up in a number of 80’s
films Smithereens, Blank
Generation, Geek Maggot Bingo,
What About Me? Final Rewind
and most notably appearing in
Madonna’s Desperately Seeking
Susan. Don’t count on seeing
him smiling come credit role
or hearing him speak but it is
most definitely the lanky Hell
getting the business from that
Madonna lady.
It is extremely difficult to
have such a revered catalog of
music and to be able to act in
films of your choosing (as in
no guest roles in movies like
Wanted). Tom Waits is
continuing on with not only a
celebrated music career but
also has accumulated
impressive list of film
credits. Waits has had roles
in a handful of Jarmusch films
(Mystery Train, Down By Law,
Coffee and Cigarettes) as well
as appearing in Short Cuts,
Wristcutters: A Love Story,
The Outsiders, The Fisher
King, the upcoming The
Imaginarium of Doctor
Parnassus and had a small role
in Francis Ford Coppola’s One
From the Heart (Waits also got
nominated for an Oscar…that’s
right…for his music from that
film).
Some musicians have quietly
appeared in a number of “art”
films causing viewers to ask
“was that …?” then the
inevitable pause, rewind, imdb
check. Luna’s Dean Wareham is
one of those actors. He’s has
his written music show up in
films like the Squid & Whale,
Margot at the Wedding, the
Myth of Fingerprints and
Sideways as well as appearing
as an actor in indies Mr.
Jealously, Piggie, Pumpkin
Hell and even an episode of
Law & Order that you’ve
probably seen a few hundred
times (if you can manage to
find the show on cable).
He’s still building his acting
reel but Gogol Bordello’s
Eugene Hutz has already
appeared in a handful of
films, most notably a brief
speaking role in actor Liev
Schreiber’s Everything Is
Illuminated.
Yes it’s in black and white,
yes it does run a little slow
and yes it is full of in-jokes
but the Half-Cocked cast is
made up of members of Rodan,
Retsin, The Grifters, Nation
of Ulysses, Lungfish, Sonora
Pine and the Make-Up. While
not a perfect film, it is
entertaining to watch these
normally reserved musicians
trying to play somewhat
extroverted characters.
Besides that, there are some
great performances and a great
soundtrack leading to many of
the actors performing double /
triple duty.
Was just flipping through my vinyl tonight and saw the Half-Cocked soundtrack. Never got to see the actual film, but the soundtrack is great (and the vinyl is a double-LP with more songs than the CD).
Singlehandedly one of the best
tour documents ever. Keep in
mind 1991 was before the term
“punk” was completely
bastardized. 1991: The Year
Punk Broke finds Sonic Youth
taking a very young band
called Nirvana with them on a
bunch of European club dates.
Also showing up; the Ramones,
Gumball, Dinosaur Jr., and Bob
Mould sampling the catering.
The documentary has some
priceless scenes (Dave Grohl
discovering the food spread
alone is worth a watch) and
amazing quotes (“"you're not
just a duck, you are human"
“I’m hungry. Anyone got a
pig’s head?!”) and
entertaining enough even for
anyone that doesn’t care for
the band or the live
performances.
Haven’t seen 1991: The Year
Punk Broke? Unfortunately this
is probably pretty common. The
film has only been available
on VHS (which I own –
screening, my place, you bring
food) and Laserdisc since it
was released on home video.
Universal owns the film now
and has reportedly been
prepped for deluxe release
since 2004 but still has not
seen the light of day. A site has been created to help
petition for its release and
hopefully with more attention,
1991: The Year Punk Broke will
again see the light of day.
ALSO WORTH WATCHING IF'N YOU'RE A FAN OF THE NW MUSIC SCENE DURING THE GRUNGE ERA:
HYPE! http://www.imdb.com/title/t t0116589/
AND(MAINLY FOR LULZ)
KURT AND COURTNEY http://www.imdb.com/title/t t0138563/
No Age guitarist Randy Randall
was great enough to speak with
MOC's own TheRyan about recording, Nouns, LA,
and more...
• Most people are aware that No
Age came about from the
dissolution of the band Wives.
How did Wives begin?
Wives started, um, just
through some mutual friends. I
knew the drummer (Jeremy
Villalobos) and the drummer
knew Dean (Allen Spunt). So we
became friends just from going
to shows and hanging around
LA. And yeah the idea was
‘Hey, we should all play music
together’. That’s how I met
Dean under the guise of ‘hey
you should meet my other
friend and we should all play’
so that’s how that all
started.
• No Age’s initial releases came
in the form of 5 different EPs
on 5 different labels. How did
that decision come about?
It was kind of a crapshoot for
us. It was a funny idea. We
had just started this band, we
didn’t really want to make a
record, we felt like we had
ideas that were going in a lot
of different directions. It
just felt too soon to record a
whole record cause it felt
like we were a good band
writing kind of small songs.
It just sort of seemed… we
wanted to do it in a big way.
Make small records in a big
way. So the idea was to come
up with (and we easily thought
this was never gonna happen,
no one was gonna agree to do
it), we kind of came up with
the idea to release 5 EPs at
the same time, on 5 different
labels in 5 different
countries. The kind of stuff
you just happen to come across
in, you know, a 7” bin. And
you know ‘oh, what’s this?
never heard of these guys’ in
a way that’s more small
community based. You weren’t
gonna see it at a store, or
something. It was gonna be
something you’d come across,
you know, flipping through
vinyl.
• How was the process been
changed with Sub Pop, in terms
of recording and putting an
album out?
Right um, it kind of felt like
we really want to make a
record where we sit down and
kind of shape everything and
listen to the songs and kind
of take a step back and kind
of see how it fits together as
a whole unit you know? All the
songs, do they compliment each
other? Compliment meaning any
number of things, in our minds
you know, do they fit? Was it
a balanced record? So we went
about writing songs that way
and if we felt there was a
sound that wasn’t on the
record that we wanted to hear,
we would write a song that
would express that.
• Did you have the same freedom
with the Sub Pop record
(Nouns) that you had with the
previous EPs?
Oh yeah, totally. We actually
started recording Nouns, the
Sub Pop record, before we were
even on Sub Pop. A good number
of the songs were already
written. And we had an
opportunity to record stuff.
So we started recording before
we knew even what label we
were gonna be on. So it was
definitely the same way, we
turned it in and you know,
there was no notes or anything
you know, after the record,
that’s it. We paid for it,
here it is.
• Have you noticed the reception
on the road has changed? Are
you getting a different crowd
now?
Ah you know, not really. I
feel like it’s pretty cool and
pretty consistent. I feel like
it’s a lot of people that we
either know or a friend of a
friend or at least that’s how
it feels from the people that
come and talk to us. Seems
fairly organic and pretty
normal.
• What are some of the cities
and venues you really like to
go to?
Um, where do I like to go? I
really like um, good question,
the Triple Rock in Minneapolis
is a great club you know.
Liars and us played there to
nobody but everybody there was
cool and real nice to us. They
still gave us a meal and some
drink tickets even though we
didn’t bring, you know, we
probably brought like 10
people in there. So places
like that that are totally
supportive and cool. They’re
still cool when nobody gave a
shit who we are. Ah, that
place is really cool and also
we really love the Todd P
shows in New York. He doesn’t
have a single venue or
solitary venue, he kind of
does it in different places
but he’s an old friend.
• A lot of mention was made a
few months ago when Colin
Greenwood (Radiohead) had a No
Age shirt on…
(RR laughs)
Was that a surprise to you
guys?
Ah, no not really, well, the
idea of Colin Greenwood at
all, first, was a surprise but
we were notified. His people
got in touch with our people,
I think his record label got
in touch with our record label
and said he was gonna come to
the show. We played a show
just outside of London and he
came with his wife and a
friend who’s a photographer.
He was so cool. It was just
surprising you know we were
like ‘oh wow, that’s the guy
from Radiohead’ but his wife
came up and said that she was
a fan and that she grew up
kind of listening to the DC
hardcore music and so she was
a fan of our music and also
she had said that they had
played Weirdo Rippers, the
album before Nouns, in the car
and the kids would like play
along, like air drums, play
along with it. So I feel like
maybe Colin got dragged in by
his wife, and I don’t know if,
she may have put him up to
wearing the shirt. But they
were also really nice and
bought a whole bunch of merch.
We would’ve given it to them
but they insisted on paying
for it.
•Have any you had any other
attention or support from
other bands like that since?
Um, I don’t know. No,
definitely not from anybody we
don’t know. Like the guys from
Liars. We had known, just from
living in LA, so that was
really awesome they asked us.
So it’s cool with those guys
but yeah, you know nothing
really that crazy.
•Growing up in LA, were there
any memorable shows that you
went to that let you know that
this is what I want to do?
Wow, um yeah. I think probably
one of the first shows I went
to where I really felt like I
could do this was, I saw Mike
Watt play solo at the Smell in
North Hollywood, its first
location. And it was
definitely, I walked away from
the best show with a firm
belief in my head that I could
do that. There’s no way that
I’m not gonna do that and that
totally made sense that that
was what I wanted to do.
• What is next for No Age?
We’re gonna do this tour with
Abe Vigoda all around the US;
Abe Vigoda and Mika Miko and
then we keep touring. We go
back to Europe and bounce
around for awhile and then I
think we’re gonna sit down and
start working on new ideas you
know we’ve kind of been
writing small parts and pieces
of things but after these
tours we’ll start to fit them
together for the next record.
•Would that planned to be a
full length or another EP?
Um, I don’t know. We’re really
excited about doing another EP
but yeah, I don’t know. I
think in a sort of way…we’ll
just wait and see how the
pieces all fit together. The
other thing we’re gonna work
on is the music video for the
song “Teen Creeps”.
Indie music before it was
called “indie”. Songs for
Cassavetes captures the
burgeoning American
“underground” music scene
before it became fashionable
to use such music in
department store adverts.
Bands featured in Justin
Mitchell’s documentary include
Sleater-Kinney, The Make-Up,
Unwound, The Peeches, Henry's
Dress, Further, Tullycraft,
Some Velvet Sidewalk, Dub
Narcotic Sound System and the
Hi-Fives.
Fans of indie favorites Minus Story and also the trumpet playing
in Shearwater will be glad to know that a
large part of both, Jordan Geiger, has decided to go out solo
under the moniker Hospital Ships. Geiger clearly has love for bands
like the Flaming Lips but is also part of that “boyish tenor” + massive sound movement
perfected by Built to Spill. It has been done but it can
sometimes work without being
cliche.
Graveface Records is releasing the Hospital Ships debut, Oh, Ramona, on October 21st and is being described as “bedroom pop” which is probably not a
euphemism but instead a term
to describe really quiet
trumpets. Played by mice. And
the goldfish get the
sousaphones.
Last night the famed Butthole Surfers played NYC’s Webster Hall and wouldn’t you know it,
things got out of hand. The
band was playing NYC for the first time in about 7 years and after playing for
over 90 minutes, head Butthole Gibby Haynes started arguing with a sound
guy on the side of the stage.
According to a witness “He then went over to harass
the sound guy, and was warned
repeatedly by security. The
scene erupted when Gibby reportedly threw a punch (or
a bottle) at the sound guy,
which may or may not have
broken his nose. I didn't see
the punch thrown, but I
certainly saw him get escorted
off the stage, which prompted
the inevitable bottle throwing
from the crowd.”
The remaining Butthole Surfers finished playing the
interrupted song and left the
stage with “lots of applause and high
fives to the front row”. The lights stayed low and
the crowd began stuck around
and chanted, fully expecting
an encore (note to everyone: can we
please go back to not
expecting an encore and being
surprised when we get one? k
thx) and growing quite unruly
when it appeared they wouldn’t
be getting one.
Another witness said“The only people who came back
to the stage though, were big
security guards, and the
occasional School of Rock kid to clean up some gear.
Then all of a sudden Genesis P-Orridge saunters on stage and
strangely had people shouting
louder, but was also telling
people to be silent. Security
then pulled Genesis off the stage and more and
more security filled it up.
Finally the video guy came
back to grab his laptop and
turn off the projections
(which by the way had still
been running along with
background music that whole
time). The lights were also
still off. I was close to the
video guy and he was one who
told me the show was over
because Gibby got arrested.”
Apparently Haynes was not arrested, he showed
up for an afterparty DJ gig at the Beauty Bar. Could this all have been a
clever ruse? James Brown like theatrics?